Atomically Phat

If an omnipotent benevolent god had created us and wanted us to know so, it could simply have us born with the knowledge of its existence, and what, if anything, it wants from us.

This does not affect free will, because:

1) Even people who are 100 percent sure of their religion (the vast majority of people who have ever lived) still commit what their religion considers sins

2) The deity could still give us free will anyway, otherwise it wouldn't be omnipotent

It would not use humans as prophets to get its message out, since clearly that channel of communication results in contradictory messages, and cannot be distinguished from messages that are not from the deity but only from the prophet (lies and insanity). The fact that there are many contradictory religions proves this beyond doubt. `

From this reasoning, I conclude that either

a) we were not created by a deity at all, or

b) we were created by one that is not omnipotent, omniscient, and/or benevolent, or

c) we were created by a deity that doesn’t care if we know it created us and has no demands of us.

I believe a) is correct.

Isaiah 45:7

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

Some say it's better translated as "create catastrophes" but that doesn't really change the question.

If an omnipotent benevolent god had created us and wanted us to know so, it could simply have us born with the knowledge of its existence, and what, if anything, it wants from us.

This does not affect free will, because:

1) Even people who are 100 percent sure of their religion (the vast majority of people who have ever lived) still commit what their religion considers sins

2) The deity could still give us free will anyway, otherwise it wouldn't be omnipotent

It would not use humans as prophets to get its message out, since clearly that channel of communication results in contradictory messages, and cannot be distinguished from messages that are not from the deity but only from the prophet (lies and insanity). The fact that there are many contradictory religions proves this beyond doubt. `

From this reasoning, I conclude that either

a) we were not created by a deity at all, or

b) we were created by one that is not omnipotent, omniscient, and/or benevolent, or

c) we were created by a deity that doesn’t care if we know it created us and has no demands of us.

I believe a) is correct.

Isaiah 45:7

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

Some say it's better translated as "create catastrophes" but that doesn't really change the question.

Isaiah 45:7

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

Some say it's better translated as "create catastrophes" but that doesn't really change the question.