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Bookbinder asked in Arts & HumanitiesHistory · 1 decade ago

HMS Shannon's capture of USS Chesapeake 1st June 1813?

I am seeking information about a medallion that was issued on 1st June 1913 to commemorate the centenary of the capture, by HMS Shannon, of USS Chesapeake off Boston MA. Does anyone happen to know how many medallions were issued and whom they were presented to? They were presented by 2 grand-daughters of the captain (Philip Broke) of the Shannon. The grand-daughters were Jane Ann (later Baroness de Saumarez) and Frederica Mary Horatia (later Lady Lambton Loraine). Any information will be gratefully received. One of the medallions can be seen at this link:

http://cqi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&it...

Update:

Many thanks to Will and Stabilis. I am hoping to find a 1913 record of the presentation of the medallions: a letter; a diary; newspaper article. I have checked the pub, and I see that it is not far from Nacton, which is the Broke family home. A definite connection there!

Update 2:

Thanks again, stabilis. Have looked at East Anglian Daily Times website, but they don't allow access to archives before 2006. I live in Yorkshire, so visiting museums, etc. that might have what I'm looking for is a bit awkward. I'm beginning to think that I've discovered all that there is to discover about the medallion.

Update 3:

Fri. 19/03. 1200 hrs. Thank you again, stabilis, but no luck at the RHS. I used their search facility and varied my search term, but the site delivers only current information about the school. No historical background given. As there is a time limit for questions to remain on this site, you might care to see the background to my question on:

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/

Enter shannon and chesapeake action in the search box near the top of the page. I've extended the period that this question can remain on this site, but I'm not optimistic about seeing some written confirmation of the presentation of the medallion.

Update 4:

stabilis, you are a mine of information! Thanks for the information re Capt. Broke's sword, etc. Any scrap of info could lead to a good result, as I've found when doing family research. This investigation is rather like family research: I'm running into brick walls; I'm almost there, then nothing. I really appreciate the efforts that you are making to send me in the right direction. Surely, someone, somewhere, must have written something down about the medallion presentation.

Update 5:

1415 hrs. 20/03/10. Once more, thank you, stabilis, for your interest. I'm looking forward to hearing what your friend has discovered. I've tried nmm website, and so has the person who originally had one of the medallions. We weren't impressed by the nmm. It's been a struggle to discover what little I know about the medallion, and my optimism is getting less and less every day. I'll visit again in about 24 hours.

Update 6:

1145 hrs. 21/03 Thanks for the message, stabilis. Have made my email available. Go to my profile and you will find it there. As soon as your friend makes contact, I shall delete email address. Looking forward to hearing from him.

Update 7:

1535 hrs. 21.03. Thanks for the contact details. I have spoken to the author, but he cannot help with info about the medallion. His interest lay only with the Shannon of 1813, and he knows nothing about the medallion. I think that we should wrap this enquiry up. Let me know whether or not you feel that you might have other avenues to explore.

Update 8:

Stabilis, it's been a pleasure to have met you. If I could shake your hand, I would do so. You have pointed me to sources that I could not have found on my own. I hope that our paths cross again. Thank you once more. Over and out.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Cannot help about medallion Just a point of what might be of interest to you .

    In Bucklesham , Suffolk , a village about 6kms from Ipswich The local pub is named the "Shannon " and it is said the timbers in the building are from H.M.S Shannon Sorry cannot help with your project

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    You could try the archives of the local newspaper

    "The East Anglian Daily Times "

    They have main offices in Ipswich and Norwich

    www.mediauk.com>newspapers>e

    Bookbinder , you could try the "Royal Hospital School @ Holbrook near Ipswich . this school though now is a mixed school it is still a naval Academy for children of navy personnel

    sorry i do know E- mail address But i think you might strike lucky with R.H.S Holbrook

    Further Info

    Regarding Captain Broke

    In 2005. His medal , sword , and an oil painting depicting the naval engagement were offered at auction and realised the fantastic sum of £ 1,000, 000 ( 1 Million Pounds )

    In 2006 ,The Minister of Culture blocked the sale (export) on January23 2006 Giving the nation time to raise funds in order to keep said items in country

    I do not know result , I am aware it does not answer your original question , but may be of some help/ interest

    Bookbinder

    May have had some luck , do not want to build your hopes too high so fingers crossed . I have contacted a friend , he remembers some descendant of Broke giving a talk at a historical society of which he is a member , alas this was a few years ago . He is going to contact chairman of society and hopefully may be able to put you in touch with someone

    who can really help you. Have you tried www.nmm. ac.uk/-

    this is the National Maritime Museum

    210310 Sunday 0955hrs

    Book binder I have contact telephone number for the person who gave lecture , he is an author and has written a book dealing with H.M.S Shannon . I have contacted him and he is perfectly agreeable for you to speak with him . If you wish do so , allow me to E-Mail you contact number

    For obvious reasons , I cannot post on this channel

    await your reply

    210310 --2035hrs

    Sorry Bookbinder , I agree it`s time to admit defeat on this occasion , just hope i have not wasted your time. I will bear you in mind should any information come my way

    Good Luck , Sorry to have been of little help

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  • Will
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    Yes, I can help you. The medallions were created for the Granddaughters of Sir Philip Broke, and were presented to the officers and men of HMS Shannon in 1913 (54 officers and 849 seamen).

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