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WW2 era fighters comparison question?

I was channel surfing and saw a show on Patton and the 3rd Army's advance through France, in that show a US tank column was attacked by some Bf Me-109s... the commentator described the Me-109 as "formidable but didn't have the firepower of a P-47 Thunderbolt"

That comment has me confused.

As far as I know the P-47 had 6or8 .50 calibre mg's in the wings as 'firepower' - the Me-109 has 2or4 wing-mounted mg's plus a 20mm cannon firing through the propellor hub. Both can carry bombs or rockets under the wings.

Obviously I'm missing something.

How did the P-47 have more firepower than a Bf Me-109... what was the commentator talking about?

Thanks kindly in advance!

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  • Ray W
    Lv 6
    9 years ago
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    a 50 cal bullet typically weighs 45 grams. a Browning fires at a rate of around 700 a minute for an AN2 aircraft gun

    Thats 45 x 700 = 31.5 kilos per minute of lead and badness

    times that by 8 and you get 252 kilos per minute.

    Basically a P-47 could fire a quarter of ton of ammo at you in a minute. unfortunately they didn`t have that amount of ammo on board.

    A ME 109G carried two x 13mm and up to 2 x 20mm cannon.

    13mm had a bullet weight of around 38g and a rate of fire of 900 rounds per minute

    38 x 900 x 2 = 68.4 kg

    MG151 cannon shell weight averaged at 65g rate of fire. 740 rpm

    65 x 740 x 2 96.2 kilos

    Total weight of ammo in one minute = 164.6 Kg

    Despite the added damage factor occasioned by cannon shells the weight is the usual method of determining firepower.

    Ray

    Source(s): 30+ years of WW2 research
  • no
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    Well, when you have 6 or 8 .50Cal it really IS more firepower than two machine-guns and a 20mm cannon IF you are on the receiving end. The 20mm would punch bigger holes, than the .50 Cal, but dead is still dead. Realize that the modern M-16 is only .223 Cal!! It kills just as dead as a .50 Cal, or for that matter, a 20mm.

    Of course, I am only looking at this from the standpoint of a former possible recipient for such projectiles in Southeast Asia, the Middle East, and Afghanistan (Against the Soviet invasion, not the war on terror)

  • lwhhow
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    It should also be added the p-47 was the worlds biggest and heaviest propeller fighter (even to the present). It had top speed of over 400mph if necessary and was referred to as 'the flying tank' or 'railroad buster'. Besides it's guns, it could carry an impressive amount of under wing bombs (as much as some German bombers) or lots of rockets.

    It was a 'heavy weight' while the older German ME-109 was a maneuverable 'light weight'.

    P-47's were used as much as fighter bombers/ ground attack aircraft, but also as effective fighters. As such they had way more 'fire-power' than the nimble but only for air to air combat ME-109's.

  • Gerry
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    Sinner,

    good seeing you again and great question. The question is answered by Speffy above me ~ rapid fire for unspecified targets will always win the day and provide the adrenaline to push on when one is actually in the battle field or in this case dog fight. Me 109s also had problems with the accelerated speed factor of their aircraft which meant that unless they were specifically interdicting bombers they would have a bigger struggle in knocking out pursuit planes.

    All the best,

    Gerry

  • 9 years ago

    Cannons fire slower than the .50 caliber machine guns, and BF109's did carry less ammunition. Given the time period, unless you were attacking bombers (and maybe even still then) .50 caliber machine guns would provide more firepower in numbers than 2 7.92's and a 20mm. Additionally, the P47 was an armored beast, and they had more hardpoints underneath.

  • Derek
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    I can see your point. It could be a reference to the concentrated firepower of 6 or 8 .50 calibre machine guns hitting the same spot? Or perhaps it was an over-enthusiastic American scriptwriter.

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