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How can a guy know if a woman might withdraw sexual consent after the fact?
I was reading about college sexual assault cases and many of the cases were situations where the woman gave verbal and physical consent, but later regretted it, essentially invalidating her consent after the fact. Many of these guys were suspended with a record, so basically can’t finish their education anywhere.
What can guys to do about this?
30 Answers
- Anonymous2 weeks agoFavourite answer
I man can't know if a woman will later regret having sex and will later claim her consent wasn't valid. While this happens in the real world, it is most common at colleges as you mentioned.
1. Until this is changed, college men should not have sex with women at their own institution.
2. More men who are accused of sexual assault due to consent being withdrawn after the fact, need to hire lawyers and fight such cases, rather than just accept their fate. Only by colleges getting sued will this unreasonable practice get changed.
3. Just as women have #MeToo, men need to start publicly calling out women who consent to sex, but later claim it was sexual assault. The problem now is women are rewarded for this immoral behavior.
- 1 week ago
There are men who rape and should be punished for it. There are women who lie about rape but are seldom punished for it.
neither gender is innocent. As a hetero male I am disgusted by a fellow man who does not except no. I am disgusted when a women lies about a situation and destroys an innocent male who did nothing wrong.
- ElanaLv 71 week ago
You were reading? Source? URL?
This is your interpretation of what you read, and I agree the consent rules in college are confusing.
YOU are confused.
Where I think you are confused is the difference between what appears to have happened vs. what actually happened.
If a woman is terrified and says she consents BECAUSE she is terrified, she isn't really consenting, is she? Consenting under duress of, say, violence, isn't consenting, is it?
So this gets very confusing when later on she testifies that she SAID yes, but she didn't want it. This doesn't mean she didn't want it after the fact, it means that she didn't want it before the fact but, basically, lied to him.
Of course, people have different reasons for feeling compelled to have sex beyond threat of physical violence, and clearly women absolutely have used the above ambiguities to absolutely lie and turn "regretted having sex" into "was raped".
But it is quite possible to apparently consent to sex and actually be raped.
In the world of miscommunication, it is certainly possible that people misread each other and in my mind, it's really hard to throw somebody in jail for the crime of misinterpreting what is going on, but again, just as a person can turn regret for sex into rape, so too can a person deliberately misunderstand.
The big reason we have judges and juries is to determine the credibility of witnesses - and yeah, women tend to appear more credible than men in such environments. That is, women can get away with lying more than men can.
It's not that she can legally decide after the fact that she didn't want sex, it's that she can lie about it and probably be believed.
*THAT* is the double standard you should be pissed off at.
- Anonymous1 week ago
Men are liars
- Green PuffinLv 71 week ago
I suspect that in all these cases, both the male and female Student were very drunk. The moral to this story is, don't have sex if either you or your partner are really drunk. Snog them, fondle them and then walk them home, don't stay the night or if you do, wear your underpants, all night and insist that you don't have sex with drunk people.
Be very choosy of who you want to have sexual intercourse with, because there are many mentally unstable people out there and you don't want to end up fvcking someone who may later accuse you of rape. Or may end up actually raping you.
When my kids leave home, I will be having this talk with them, regardless of how cringe worthy it'll be for both of us. I'd rather they were informed about these pitfalls, than uninformed. Take responsiblity.
- Anonymous1 week ago
Maybe you really shouldn't sleep with anyone who you do not really know........... I mean that is what a wise man once told me
- 1 week ago
This is what I do when you're hitting that have a recorder going in the room somewhere hidden ask her to say it that she wants it now if you like to play a little dirty have her call you Daddy you can also have legal documents made up and have her sign them before intercourse either way is effective just remember you cannot truly trust women they are out to get you at any chance they can make sure you protect yourself you have these choices it's up to you to use it
- Common SenseLv 71 week ago
A man has several ways to prevent being falsely accused of rape.
*Avoid casual sex
* Avoid sex with strangers
*Avoid hooking up with a new date while she is consuming alcohol
*Get to know and trust your date before sleeping with her.
*Realize that "no" or "stop" means just that ... even if what you were doing with her 30 seconds ago was consensual. She has the right to change her mind.
*Signing or texting consent is useless because she can change her mind any second.
Those people who will have casual sex or sex with strangers are high risk and problematic while being more susceptible to false rape accusations.
Some of these precautions may be a buzz kill to those who choose to have casual sex. But not all rape accusations are among strangers. I guess if you are going to have sex you need to trust who you take off your pants with.
- Jas BLv 71 week ago
Unfortunately you did not supply the source when you found this claim, so it is impossible to check it's credibility.
What is a well documented fact is that many rapes are never reported;
https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/about-sexua...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/unrepo...
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-op...
https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/research/...
Now while I would never claim that some women make false allegations of rape, I doubt is comes close to the number of women and men who are raped and never report it.
- 1 week ago
Yes, the feminists have manipulated truth for a very long time to push their hate of men.
We live in a feminized society, and the only answer is for more and more good people to wake up to the hate, hypocrisy and evil that feminism is. Look at all the double standards women call equality today - look at the level of contempt and total lack of respect women have for men that they call normal these days -
It’s all about a mothers rights, but no fathers rights.Women being treated like princesses in prison and men being treated like animals. Female prison guards humiliate and degrade men with strip searches, shower supervision etc, but female prisoners get privacy and respect from male prison guards.Men have to register for the draft and selective service, women don't. This is clear discrimination and shows women don't value mens lives the way they do their own.Bodily choice for women, but forced genital mutilation for boys, referring to women’s rights to their bodies in terms of abortion, but boys being circumcised without choice.Female reporters and staff allowed in men’s locker rooms, but privacy and respect for female athletes. This is the definition of feminist equality. Is this an example of the respect that feminists claim MEN don’t have for the opposite sex?Its women getting everything in a divorce, and men being torn away from their childrenFemale sex offenders being slapped on the wrist, but male sex offenders being incarcerated the rest of their livesIts men being sentenced to more time for the same crime than women. This can be researched under the US government and shows that women don’t get held accountable to the level that men do.Women having the right to use the men’s room, but a man who walks in to the women’s room is arrested for being disrespectful and perverted. Men use urinals, but that’s still not enough for women to have basic respect for men’s privacy.Its a feminized education system that cripples natural behavior of boys, makes being male a crime in school, then girls claiming they are smarter.Why is it when two people under the age of consent have sex, only the boy is charged with doing something wrong?Its women being allowed to drown five children and using the fact she is a woman to get away with it - Andrea YatesIts women being allowed to use domestic violence as an excuse to murder a sleeping husband, even though there is no evidence of domestic abuse - Mary WinklerIts the extensive abuse of restraining orders to vilify an innocent man and get leverage in a divorce. A restraining order against a man can be served even without his knowledge or an opportunity to defend himself.Its men being jailed for defending themselves against an abusive wife, but called a wimp if he takes the abuseIts women demanding respect from men, but never having to respect them in returnIts women having the choice between abortion, adoption, dropping an unwanted baby off at a hospital, raising the child with a father, or raising the child without a father, but the only choice men have is to agree.Its 3 innocent Duke Lacrosse players losing their lives because we don’t ever think a woman could lie about rape - let alone prosecute her for doing so.Its women labeling men as abusive when the US government has shown women cause more child abuse than men.Its female rape being horrendous, but male rape being funny and made in to comedy movies. Rape is a legally accepted part of the justice system, but only against men.Its just about every TV show being allowed to humiliate and degrade men, but women complaining and calling it sexist if they were treated the same.It’s more health care spending going towards women’s health than men’s. Breast cancer receives 7 times the funding of prostate cancer. There are three departments of women’s health in the US government, but none for men. However, men live an average of 5 years less than women when the genders used to have the same life span.Its allowing women only clubs and banning men only clubsIt’s doing everything we can to help girls in math and science, but letting boys fall further behind in everything else.It’s defining equal pay for equal work as men playing five sets of tennis, but women only playing three. Maybe women claiming 3=5 is the reason for the above pointIts cutting men’s sports in college in favor of women’s sports that have no interestIts female murderers being mentally ill, but male murderers just being evilIts claiming men walk out on their family when its actually women who file 80% of divorcesIts men being portrayed as evil, stupid or buffoons on TV and all women being perfect or superior.Its women wanting equality for their gender, but men being called chauvinist pigs when they want equality for their genderIts fixing the education system when girls are failing, and blaming the boys when boys are failingIts women being allowed to level false accusation against an innocent man without consequence. Read Duke Lacrosse and many other examples. Feminism has installed this right to women through the courts.Its a man being a chauvinist, sexist pig when he doesn’t respect women, but a women who doesn’t respect men is an admirable, strong and independent woman.Women remove male role models from their sons' lives, then when their sons behave badly, the women blame "patriarchy."Stereotyping girls as inferior to boys in any facet of life is "misogyny"; stereotyping boys as potential batterers and rapists is a public service announcement.Married men who have affairs are selfish pigs; married women who have affairs are seeking the fulfillment they are not getting in their marriages.Women insist their husbands assume the responsibilities of being a full parent, but as soon as a woman files for divorce, he is just an ATM.Its feminists not being able to provide one example of legal discrimination against women in the US today. Reverse the genders in ANY of the above and women would be screaming about the patriarchy and shrieking about how little respect men have for women.