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Are Christians really being persecuted in the UK?

Here's a link:

http://www.persecution.org/2011/06/06/european-cou...

Whatever the principle involved, I can't help thinking that wearing a crucifix on a necklace is relatively unimportant so can't understand why the employers concerned forbade it to begin with; or why the employee insisted. That does seem disproportionate on both sides - however I don't know the full facts.

However I can see that the marriage counsellor who refused to counsel gay couples was exhibiting unacceptable prejudice and actually refusing to do his job. If he believes it wrong to be gay, he can apply that to himself without interfering with the legitimate freedoms of others and effectively persecuting them.

Update:

Yes, I agree that link was to a biased publication. Here's one to another publication:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8556650/C...

Update 2:

I realise now that I used the term "marriage counsellor", when I should have used someting like "relationship counsellor". Probably my age.....

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  • 1 decade ago
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    the problem here is taking newspaper reports as totally factual and taking isolated cases as indicative of the whole situation. The lady stopped from wearing a cross by an airline got caught in a general rule about wearing religious symbols while in uniform which was not specific to christian symbols. The nurse was related to wearing jewellery in uniform. The registrar who refused to marry same sex couples is an officer of the law and if the law says she should do this then she should If her religious beliefs prevent her from carrying out her job then she has to go. The sexual counsellor's job is to counsel couples on their sexual problems if he cannot handle homosexual problems then he should not have been in that field in the first place. This is quite a common aspect of sexuality which he must have encountered when training and he should have moved into a different field at that stage

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Some are unaware of the ones who become Christiasn and the persecution they face.

    Persecution of 3000 Ex-Muslim Christians in UK - (Part 1/4) Channel 4/YouTube. Organisations such as Ex-Muslim Council UK and Germany are there to support those who become Christian and Atheist but face severe persecution.

  • 1 decade ago

    Mmhhh...I agree with your opinion on the crucifix....faith comes from the heart and it needs no object to venerate

    However, the example of the marriage counsellor is rather different. PLease consider: When a psychotherapist counsels, he/she must have real positive regard, acceptance and genuiness; when the counsellor cannot provide these core conditions then it is his/her duty to pass on the client to someone who can provide them in full (this is accepted practice in humanistic counselling especially)

    I dont see how this is any different from the marriage guidance counsellor - one persons rights do not mean freedom to infringe on another persons conscience

    A small point but isn't the gay couple civil partnership not a marriage? Hence, they don't legally qualify for marriage guidance

    Persecuted is perhaps too strong a term at this stage but I have no doubts that it will get much worse.

  • 1 decade ago

    I live in the UK myself, and have heard of news stories such as these. Yes I've heard of people being told to take off crucifix's because they may offend people of other faiths, in their work place (I recall a story about a woman who worked for B.A. in that story... Don't know if I'm recalling it correctly though!).

    That being said I feel that it's just idiots being a bit over-politically correct about the way they try to steer the ship, as it is. They overlook one persons feelings to satisfy another's.

    However, Christians aren't being persecuted by any stretch of the imagination. Sure, sometimes intolerance shines through because of some juvenile tool but that could be said of any situation. And shouldn't taken as an attack on religion, more so the act of an ignorant man / woman.

  • 1 decade ago

    To some degree, yes.

    But many lose perspective, compared to the very serious treatment meted out to Christians elsewhere (More Christians were martyred in the 20th Century than the previous 19 together....and that trend continues into the 21st)

    It is weird, however, that wearing a Niqab is fine but a cross is banned.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

    confident. Jehovah's Christian Witnesses are often verbally abused publicly and each now and then bodily abused, sometimes it somewhat is meted out by potential of family members, even by potential of their spouses; incidents are no longer one off yet familiar on a daily basis activities. fortuitously it is basically a relative few who go through in the family contributors homestead, it is extra person-friendly to take place at artwork or college, and the norm while ending up Jesus command to ''bypass subsequently and make disciples of people of each and all of the countries....'' see Mathew 28: 19, 20. yet undergo in suggestions Jesus became scourged and nailed up for doing what we J.W's are doing so we assume it, you may have seen many derogatory, sarcastic, venomous and each now and then hate-finished comments published in this website against us. it type of feels to be that anybody who has distinctive religious ideals or different changes is open to three type of abuse, especially unhappy that we are able to't be civil these days.

  • 1 decade ago

    If they are asked to go after they are asked to follow the laws and regulations and refused, they are not being persecuted. If they claimed that they are being persecuted, they have brought shamed to themselves by using the word that makes their irresposible act equal to those who has died for work of spreading the Word of God.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    Christians have a persecution complex. They're only happy if they claim that everyone else is against them. It's even more bizarre when you look at the USA where Christians are in the VAST majority, but still claim that they are being persecuted and discriminated against all the time.

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  • 1 decade ago

    No, well not in the UK anyway.

    The two people told not to wear a cross were breaching uniform regulations, if the cross really meant so much to them they could have pinned it inside their clothes or worn a longer chain so it was under their clothing.

    The registrar - she made me so angry, she claimed that marriage was between a man and a woman 'in the sight of god' - well no a register office is nothing to do with god - if you wanted a god involved you would have a religious ceremony.

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